Omg, Gimps Gone Wild!

I have been a very big critic of not talking about people with disabilities and sex, and when reading my discussion groups, this came up, and it was not only erotic, but it was educational as well. Those gimps do it too, lol. I know this is a pretty risque topic, and keep the kids away, but we all have to understand that sexuality is a normal part of life for all of us, able or disabled, young or old, and yes, to answer your question in advance, I think this site is hot! It's really here hot here in California, anyway. My own two cents on the subject is that all teachers and medical professionals as well as others who work in the field need to understand that sex and disability has to be creative, and sometimes assistive devices, and even PCAs are necessary. To deny anyone this right is just wrong. We don't teach about birth control, abstinence, or even sex education to most special ed kids, so they always wonder, and we all know that they get that feeling one day, and I think about my friend, who I'll call Bob. Bob grew up, and would see people kissing, holding hands, hugging, and even at times, touching each other. Instead of Bob having the satisfaction of feeling this way himself, he always went without. He would always say things like, "what is it like to have a girlfriend," "does sex hurt?" It's questions like these that haunt me about the subject. We must educate, even the ones who feel uncomfortable, because it's like a shot in the arm: once you get it, it's not uncomfortable anymore. It's not porn, it's natural. And Bob went to his grave never having sex, or a relationship.

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I hear ya Kimi {thumbsup}

Easy access lingerie is a great invention [smile].

There are perks to dating DA that just don't happen as smoothly with
an AB.

An example- If you're both disabled you get a lot more quality time
that dosen't happen if an AB partner has to finish chores a PCA
didn't finish {when the PCA couldn't show up, etc}.

When I was with a DA guy we never had any problems with the chore
load issue because we'd both have the same amount of time and focus
to give to each other while the chores were left until a PCA could
get to work again.

There was more understanding and being on the same page when it came
to both of us being disabled.

DA realationships are very far from 'settling' as some ignorant types
believe. Double DA can work way better than DA AB. We're the ones
who bennefit from the experience and dating DA is not scrapping the
bottom of the barrel at all or 'taking what we can find' leftover
second class quality.

Does this make me a DA Dev?

--- In independentliving@yahoogroups.com, Ksmile96@... wrote:
>
> Eric and I did not need any where near as much help as Jen and Doug
do, but
> we did need help undressing, transferring, setting up and cleaning
up. My
> PCA would get me dressed in lingerie that I could move or take off
myself
> before putting me in bed. Since Eric, like Jen and Doug, was
dependent on the
> vent a nurse/PCA had to be in the other room. It wasn't the only
reason, but
> that was 1 reason I usually always wore lingerie. Yeah, it sucked
that we had
> little privacy and it wasn't easy getting used to people coming in
and out of
> the bedroom when we needed something. But we had a great sex
life. It was
> actually the best sex life I ever had w/a guy, even AB guys. Yes,
there was
> less spontaneity, but in the end we had a much more active sex
life than our
> AB friends. We were also lucky to have PCA's who were comfortable
w/the
> situation. You are right Amy, it takes guts, but what do you do
when you are in
> love w/someone who happens to be severely DA also? You do what
you gotta do.
> I never thought in a million years I'd get engaged to a DA guy.
One thing
> I liked about dating Eric vs an AB guy was I believed him more
when he gave
> me compliments about being beautiful and sexy b/c his body was not
the
> societal norm either. He helped my self confidence and body image
immensely.
>
> Kimi
>
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>
> "We come to love not by finding a perfect person but by learning
to see an
> imperfect person perfectly" - San Keen
>
>
> In a message dated 8/24/2008 10:36:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> charmedcripchic@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> That's the real gist of the issue- how do you make everything work
> out when PCAs have to position you, clean you up, maybe assist
with
> putting on protection? Hiring PCAs for non personal tasks is
> difficult enough.
>
> I have some PCAs who've told me after viewing Gimps Gone Wild {in
> theory not practice} how if the need arose they'd help me because
> they care, but would still find it difficult.
>
> They find it difficult- heck I'd find it difficult- but that's
just
> me and just at this momment in my life.
>
> What if tomorro me and a special somebody fell crazy in love for
each
> other? But we couldn't do each others personal care?
>
> Years ago I was somewhat initiated into double disability love
life
> while in a serious relationship with a guy with SCI. We had to
have
> a PCA to transfer me, but my guy was able to take things from
there.
> Spontenaety was not as good but anticipation and arrousal was
> happening while waiting for a PCA to show up and give me a lift.
> Planned sex happens more often than waiting for a spontaneous
urge.
>
> Later on I had to readjust when I had an abled bod partner. All of
a
> sudden foreplay gets switched from slow and steady to brace
yourself
> bridgette. {bad irish joke there}
>
> To each their own and I mean no disrespect to those who need a
PCAs
> help in the bedroom. You got more gutts than anyone I know. My
kudos
> to you.
>
> --- In _independentliving@independentlind_
> (mailto:independentliving@yahoogroups.com) , mvolkman@ wrote:
> >
> > This is great! It's not exploitation on their part if they are
> doing
> > it of their own free will. If anything, any exploitation in the
> sex
> > business happens when somebody pays money for it, even if it is
by
> > choice. But I digress. These two are having a good time and like
> > showing off. To some it may be a fetish, and there's nothing
> wrong
> > with that. To others, it's a chance to learn something. I would
> get
> > turned on watching them. Using their equipment is creative and
> > interesting, and makes for a great example of seriously in-depth
> IL
> > skills peer training. I don't think I could bring an aide into
> the
> > process, though. I would have to have a partner who has mobility.
> >
> > On Aug 24, 2008, at 9:44 22PMEDT, Amy wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > WARNING- VERY GRAPHIC ADULT CONTENT
> > >
> > > Don't Read this if you're uncomfortable with disability porn
> > >
> > > You've been warned
> > >
> > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
> > >
> > > Gimps Gone Wild is not an unknown site here. It's a website
run
> by
> > > and for people with disabilities to sell pictures of
themselves
> from
> > > exotic settings, elegant costumes, to full out porn.
> > >
> > > Newer stars causing some commotion on the Gimps Gone Wild site
> are a
> > > married couple named Doug and Jenn who both have SMA and use
> > > ventilators. They sell pics and films that prove beyond any
> doubt
> > > that sex is not impossible as long as you have a big enough
bed,
> > > helpful PCAs, and a hoyer lift.
> > >
> > > {Hey, even I just got educated in some alternative uses for a
> hoyer
> > > lift looking at Doug and Jenns promo proofs}
> > >
> > > Doug and Jenn are breaking new ground at Gimps Gone Wild but
are
> > > they exploiting themselves? Or just participating in the syber
> > > adult film culture like any other adult is free to take part
in?
> > >
> > > Doug and Jenn put that whole late 1980s Playboy centerfold
with
> > > spinal cord injuries contraversy into old fashioned qaintville.
> > >
> > > WARNING GRAPHIC LINK BELOW
> > >
> > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX
> > >
> > > Link to Doug and Jenns page at the Gimps Gone Wild website:

http://www.gimpsgonewild.com/doug_n_jenn.htm